If we can't ever use hateful words, what happens to our stories of being called those words?

The answer to this question is nggrfg, a one-man tour-de-force about being black and gay in a world that doesn’t always have room for either.

For the last two years, playwright and actor Berend McKenzie has been performing the piece in theatres and highschools across the lower mainland. Maria Persdotter met up with Berend to talk about this journey.

The interview first aired on Worm's Eye View: Grassroots News, CJSF 901.FM